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		<title>By: Erik R.</title>
		<link>http://erikras.com/2008/02/21/total-lunar-eclipse/#comment-1929</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love comment thread tangents.  :-)

It&#039;s not really misnamed, that was just me being brash.  The problem is that XHTML allows for two different tags that do &lt;i&gt;exactly&lt;/i&gt; the same thing: &lt;abbr&gt; and &lt;acronym&gt;.  I suppose you could make the argument that they are subtly different in the way that people argue for the need for the other identical pairs (&lt;b&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;, &lt;i&gt; and &lt;em&gt;, etc.), but those are weak arguments, in my opinion.

My current preference for (mis)using the &lt;acronym&gt; tag to provide a parenthetical phrase is borrowed from my fellow blog buddy, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.isoglossia.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sgazzetti&lt;/a&gt;.  I like the way that parenthetical remarks can be hidden away so that the text flows more cleanly, and the extra information, if desired, can be attained by hovering over the dotted-underlined text.  It makes the comments more optional than using standard parentheses.

What I meant was that it would be nice if there were a &lt;paren&gt; tag that would provide similar functionality.  Of course the proper way to do what I&#039;m doing is to use a &lt;span class=&quot;parenthetical&quot; title=&quot;whatever&quot;&gt;, but I&#039;ve been too lazy to do that so far.  At some point, I&#039;d like to write a program to run through my blog database and convert everything to proper XHTML Strict.  I will probably remedy my naughty acronyming then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love comment thread tangents.  <img src='http://erikras.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not really misnamed, that was just me being brash.  The problem is that XHTML allows for two different tags that do <i>exactly</i> the same thing: &lt;abbr&gt; and &lt;acronym&gt;.  I suppose you could make the argument that they are subtly different in the way that people argue for the need for the other identical pairs (&lt;b&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;, &lt;i&gt; and &lt;em&gt;, etc.), but those are weak arguments, in my opinion.</p>
<p>My current preference for (mis)using the &lt;acronym&gt; tag to provide a parenthetical phrase is borrowed from my fellow blog buddy, <a href="http://www.isoglossia.com/" rel="nofollow">sgazzetti</a>.  I like the way that parenthetical remarks can be hidden away so that the text flows more cleanly, and the extra information, if desired, can be attained by hovering over the dotted-underlined text.  It makes the comments more optional than using standard parentheses.</p>
<p>What I meant was that it would be nice if there were a &lt;paren&gt; tag that would provide similar functionality.  Of course the proper way to do what I&#8217;m doing is to use a &lt;span class=&#8221;parenthetical&#8221; title=&#8221;whatever&#8221;&gt;, but I&#8217;ve been too lazy to do that so far.  At some point, I&#8217;d like to write a program to run through my blog database and convert everything to proper XHTML Strict.  I will probably remedy my naughty acronyming then.</p>
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		<title>By: Hubbers</title>
		<link>http://erikras.com/2008/02/21/total-lunar-eclipse/#comment-1928</link>
		<dc:creator>Hubbers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to look that up. Surely you could just use parenthesise if that was your aim.

What proof do you have that &lt;acronym&gt; tag is misnamed?

If it is misnamed then what tag do we use to improve the accessibility for acronyms?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to look that up. Surely you could just use parenthesise if that was your aim.</p>
<p>What proof do you have that &#60;acronym&#62; tag is misnamed?</p>
<p>If it is misnamed then what tag do we use to improve the accessibility for acronyms?</p>
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		<title>By: Erik R.</title>
		<link>http://erikras.com/2008/02/21/total-lunar-eclipse/#comment-1927</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks.

The &lt;acronym&gt; tag is misnamed.  I use it as if it were a &lt;parenthetical&gt; tag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>The &lt;acronym&gt; tag is misnamed.  I use it as if it were a &lt;parenthetical&gt; tag.</p>
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		<title>By: Hubbers</title>
		<link>http://erikras.com/2008/02/21/total-lunar-eclipse/#comment-1926</link>
		<dc:creator>Hubbers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post but suspicious use of acronym tag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post but suspicious use of acronym tag.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik R.</title>
		<link>http://erikras.com/2008/02/21/total-lunar-eclipse/#comment-1925</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm...  You signed up with the exact mac.com address you place comments with?  I wonder if it takes a while...

The comment preview should use your gravatar.com avatar now.  Change the email field to my or sgazzetti&#039;s email address and you&#039;ll see what I mean.

Try out the &lt;a href=&quot;http://site.gravatar.com/support/check&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;diagnostic&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;  You signed up with the exact mac.com address you place comments with?  I wonder if it takes a while&#8230;</p>
<p>The comment preview should use your gravatar.com avatar now.  Change the email field to my or sgazzetti&#8217;s email address and you&#8217;ll see what I mean.</p>
<p>Try out the <a href="http://site.gravatar.com/support/check" rel="nofollow">diagnostic</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
		<link>http://erikras.com/2008/02/21/total-lunar-eclipse/#comment-1924</link>
		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaaaaaaand now I see it was a wasted effort as the bluehost avatar is still showing up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaaaaaaand now I see it was a wasted effort as the bluehost avatar is still showing up.</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
		<link>http://erikras.com/2008/02/21/total-lunar-eclipse/#comment-1923</link>
		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it looks like the bluehost icon. After I commented I signed up for the gravatar thing because the idea of the wrong avatar showing up with my comment was more than I could bear. Can&#039;t...take...the...pressure....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it looks like the bluehost icon. After I commented I signed up for the gravatar thing because the idea of the wrong avatar showing up with my comment was more than I could bear. Can&#8217;t&#8230;take&#8230;the&#8230;pressure&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik R.</title>
		<link>http://erikras.com/2008/02/21/total-lunar-eclipse/#comment-1922</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane, that comment preview avatar is a borrowed idea.  Do you recognize the avatar you ended up with for your comment?  (looking at the html source is cheating)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, that comment preview avatar is a borrowed idea.  Do you recognize the avatar you ended up with for your comment?  (looking at the html source is cheating)</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
		<link>http://erikras.com/2008/02/21/total-lunar-eclipse/#comment-1921</link>
		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;At 3:36 in the morning, the thought crossed my mind, &quot;I wonder if I could write with the moon?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Ha.

As I am typing this comment I cannot help but notice a very strange icon attached to my name. I don&#039;t know what this is about but am, to quote sgazzetti, &lt;i&gt;fibrillating&lt;/i&gt; with excitement to find out what happens when I hit &quot;submit comment&quot; in a few seconds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>At 3:36 in the morning, the thought crossed my mind, &#8220;I wonder if I could write with the moon?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Ha.</p>
<p>As I am typing this comment I cannot help but notice a very strange icon attached to my name. I don&#8217;t know what this is about but am, to quote sgazzetti, <i>fibrillating</i> with excitement to find out what happens when I hit &#8220;submit comment&#8221; in a few seconds.</p>
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